I've probably started a discussion here that I didn't want to do at all.

@ Pieszyce

Nobody calls you a liar here. If you report a bug that I don't see, I can't help either. What I need for this I have already written and I will not repeat myself.
Then I only use words like the famous 40 cm in front of the screen. The wink with the fence post, as they say in Germany. I can't fix an error that I can't understand either. This has nothing to do with lying. In the forums that I am still in charge of here in Germany, and there are quite a few, I have already experienced the greatest installations and people were surprised that errors occurred that shouldn't really exist. The best thing I've experienced here, a YaBB installation directly into the root. I asked for FTP access, got access, to no avail, no connection. I phoned the server operator and that's when the error came out.
He gave me the data for the SFTP. He didn't even have FTP access. Was that why he lied to me? No! He didn't know any better. Again the famous 40 cm.

So and now I'm going to be a little angry. You certainly mean Jet Li aka Jeffrey Man. The way he said goodbye to YaBB is unworthy and lacking in character. He simply deleted important pages from YaBB (such as Boardmod.org and also the Yabbforum). At least one backup was available for the forum. Boadmod.org is in Nirvana forever. He wanted YaBB to die in a more than inglorious way. Many people had set up forums on his shared server, which suddenly went nirvana. Only a pig can make such an exit. If I had any questions when I was starting out, Jet Li always looked at me from above. He did the same with others. So I'm not the only one. This is what made me decide to learn by myself and I always got involved with the subject as far as my horizon allowed. Learned to deal with servers by always questioning myself. At that time I was already 58 years young, so 10 years ago. The word give up doesn't exist in my vocabulary. When I started something, I finished it, even if it pushed the limits of my substance.

But back to Jet Li. yes, I openly call him by name. The intention was probably to make money. Let's go from the mod "Who is where". A mod developed by XTC. This mod was suddenly only available for a payment (I remember 20 €). I informed XTC (we both speak German) about this. XTC informed me that the relationship with Jet Li had long since fallen asleep. Again and again he incorporated mods from XTC, although he was not authorized to do so. When I reported to XTC about this dubious machinations regarding the mod, they immediately started rewriting "Who is where" that it was available again for YaBB 2.6 and for free. There were also one or two other developers involved who are no longer there. We also don't know if Jet Li has incorporated any spyware. The assumption is obvious, we cannot prove it (in case of doubt for the accused). Conclusion: Humanly speaking, Jet Li was just a human ......... in my eyes. Now he can sue me. By the time he wins this lawsuit of defamation, I'll be "six feed under".

Hence my call to Dandello again. Let's make YaBB 2.6.12 bug free and it's good. Then 2.7 no longer appears.

Pieszyce wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 10:28pm:

To be clear, I didn't call you a liar any more than you called me a liar, so there's no need to take offense. Anecdotal evidence aside, you simply had the facts wrong about which forum software was, and is superior.

And again, this could be a matter of language barriers.

In any case, like you, I have thousands of links that will go bad if YaBB fails on me because those links go to topics in the forum. But that's the nature of forums that are no longer developed, and supported. That comes with the territory of operating websites, which requires one to adapt as needed.

YaBB lost its footing many years ago when moderators on the support forum made it difficult if not impossible to offer constructive criticism about its development. Ironically, some of your criticisms here on Dandello's forum about YaBB's development, or lack thereof, were many of the same criticisms that a core group of us YaBB supporters posted for discussion.

It's no wonder that so many people moved over to embrace SMF, which was a fork of YaBB, but with better software overall (as I referenced in Reply #34).

Pieszyce wrote on May 24^th, 2022 at 6:59pm:

Before I get to that, and with due respect, you brought the matter of security up, which is why I addressed it. And again, you're referencing anecdotal evidence; not factual evidence that actually addresses how good YaBB's security is versus the superior security of other well established chat forum software.

Facts matter.

To that point, it's a fact that YaBB hasn't had a reliable team of developers for many years. Quite frankly, without Dandello, YaBB's development, and support would have most surely ceased altogether.

To remind you, not long after there was an exodus of developers, YaBB was effectively forked over to SMF. Subsequently, SMF Converters were made available to help people switch over from YaBB to SMF.

Quote:

YaBB/YaBB SE

Support for the YaBB and YaBB SE converters (all versions of YaBB).

Click/tap the quote above, or the following link:

https://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php?board=135.

To be blunt about it, and in retrospect, I evidently made the wrong decision to keep using YaBB. What I should have done was switch when I had the opportunity. Then again, I've had a nice long 20-plus years with YaBB, and as I keep my fingers crossed, I hope to have many more years ahead.

@ Mr. Myers

I am not talking about now, six months ago, but about a much longer period when that FACT was noted that there were attempts to attack MySQL which thus failed in Yabb, but succeeded in my great friends phpBB forum. IP in the attack was the same.

One of my actions was to block entire countries by IP and especially those famous for their pursuits. Similarly, I banned Gmail.com, people with this mail extension could only register through me. REASON, because out of 100 attackers 85% did so through a Gmail address. Etc, etc.

But Mr. Myers, that is not the discussion now, nor is it relevant, because you have indicated that I am wrong . . and to me that is Fine, my friend and I know the problems he had at the time.

Further, if anyone makes an attempt, no matter how small, the entire Owner CIDR goes into ban, if there is a member in there then they go into the White list.

Here I will leave it at that, as this part is not important for me to elaborate.

More important is, will there ever be a successor to YaBB 2.7. for example a 3. Because I do not wish to saddle my successors with problems. Even if I would install 2.7 now the question is HOW long, will it run well and is there support for problems.


A question I should answer, but can't because I don't know, but still get asked is: Why did they at the time when many YaBB developers left, just stop, c.q. switch to another system. They could have then helped people who were using Yabb to switch over and there would have been no misery now. 

Later today I will check what's in the SVN to confirm that it's good.

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And after a repaired 2.6.12, there will be no new version of a YaBB forum at all? Isn't that too big a risk, isn't that putting forum woes a few years ahead?

If I am 2 meters under the ground, others continue with my forum, I work with a team, should they then experience the misery that a Yabb forum due to the impossibility of an upgrade totally blocks and therefore a switch to another is no longer possible??? It's all not so easy.

My problems are:

• With some Posts, I can't use the Move, Split, and Splice Popup because after I
  set everything up the SUBMIT button is gone.
• I sometimes run into the fact that I cannot move a board to another category.
  I then create a new board with an ID and copy everything to it and then it works.
  it works
• My problems with videos as in post http://yabbforumsoftware.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1571940792/5#5
  are still not solved, can "Insert media" only apply to You Tube videos, with the rest it does not work als Dandello knows.

Otherwise 2.6.12 works perfectly for me.

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I don't understand, Dandello installed this forum and her other 2.7 forums and I'm sure if there were any set up problems she would report it immediately.

But for now I will wait and see, installing the forum is not for me either because I read too fast and then skip instructions, so usually I ask for help. 

@ Pieszyce

Do not install 2.7. I downloaded the latest build. The setup doesn't work. The server hangs up. Three attempts, three times the same effect. The utilization a at 100%. Seems to be stuck in an endless loop. Only restarting the server caused the setup to abort.