Pieszyce wrote on May 22^nd, 2022 at 5:36pm:

That's not really true any longer. Not even close. Pretty much every well supported, and developed chat forum software today is far superior than YaBB. We're just biased because we've been using it so long.

Pieszyce wrote on May 22^nd, 2022 at 5:22pm:

Not necessarily. After all, today's YaBB is really SMF. Then again, it would be great if a team of developers would work together to modernize YaBB so that the YaBB name could once again shine as it did when chat forums were being developed.

Whatever happens, all of us with a web presence may want to give thought to contingency plans, i.e., how will our respective online digital footprints be carried on, or perhaps memorialized after we're gone? Or not.

Maybe nothing happens, but that is up to each one of us. That's to say, how many of us have considered this aspect of our lives in our Wills, or in Trusts that we've created?

Food for thought.

Bill Myers wrote on May 22^nd, 2022 at 5:09pm:



Hi,

Do you have the e-mail addresses of the developers too, then we can put them to work????   

Have found some things about Zef Hemel, lives too far away otherwise . . . . But what I read, his start was already bad, bit of Bill Gates figure, I start and let the rest work. So obviously not my type.   https://www.theadminzone.com/threads/interview-with-zef-hemel-founder-of-yabb.10...

But where Dandello has problems, with developers, or rather the lack of it, on my forum I had this, with moderators and Global moderators. Always friction over who was the best.
Eventually chased everyone away, tuned forum tighter and done.

Still, with Yabb, something needs to be done.

The 'hidden dark secret' - Jon Baker wasn't young or healthy 5 years ago - and he runs the server YaBBForum is on. He also has the administrative permissions for the SVN. I believe Corey Chapman still owns the domain and is the only one with access to making changes there (changing DNS, etc.)

For myself - two years ago I got hired as a programmer for a game my son and nephew have been working on for years - they hadn't been able to get and keep a competent C#/C++ programmer because those people all looked at a project proposal and whined that it was 'too hard'.

Note: I knew nothing about C# or C++ but I do know how programs work in general and my son's main comment was that one can learn C++ but one doesn't learn the sheer stubbornness that kept me working on a project for years with little feedback. That's innate. (I also think he gets a kick out of telling the previous programmers when they inquire about new work "I hired my mother.")

So YaBB got dropped from my urgent list. There's nothing nefarious. It's just that I can't have two major projects going at the same time and I'm slower (and older) than I used to be.

The issue with 2.7 is there are still a few bugs - notably with importing Global Moderator settings & Global Moderators. Other than that and whatever bugs haven't been reported it's pretty stable (for me).  It can be downloaded here: https://sourceforge.net/p/yabb/svn/HEAD/tree/branches/2.7

All MY other forums are running 2.7 but programmers are lousy at bug catching.  So I haven't been comfortable recommending it.

@ Pieszyce

So I can not confirm the error. For me it all works flawlessly. Did you set the permissions correctly? (chmod)

Is YaBB 2.7 really running here? No idea. In any case, it is not released. When I last tested it, there were still a lot of bugs.

@ Pieszyce

that YaBB is buried will not be the case. It's just not being developed any further. Only a few small bugs of the current version (2.6.12) have to be fixed. I think Dandello will do that once they are introduced to her. Then I will also translate the help files into German. I'll leave Russian open for now, but it's doable. Of course, to find the bugs, everyone's help is needed. Many eyes see more. Unfortunately, I'm not a programmer myself either, and at the age of 68 I don't feel like doing that to myself anymore.

40 seconds for a timeout is not bad. Of course, YaBB will take longer to search if you search the whole board. The timeout is already pre-programmed.


I'm just considering renting out some storage space.
So 5 euros for 100 GB plus domain costs. Of course only to a limited extent. Daily backups run automatically.
But first comes the upgrade from Debian 9 to Debian 11 next week.
I hope YaBB doesn't complain.

@ pyragony54

I know how a virtual server works because I basically use that too. Only we call it a gedeelde [shared] server.

In all those years I had a problem once with a host, where on a shared server there was a rather dominant website that when very active, turned the speed of my Yabb forum into the speed of a snail. I asked for intervention by notifying that site or moving me to another server. The host refused. No problem, because within 10 hours everything was on another host.

After that I made a list of requirements for the host. If I wanted to move, I sent the list to a few hosting companies and had them make me an offer. That's how I found out that one of them refused to turn on CGI-bin. Fine, not further intrested

The only problem I have now is, if I want to search all boards at once it stops after 40 seconds, but board by board is no problem. The hosting package is also 8 times larger than I need, maybe that helps.

Indeed a large forum, and also many very large pictures. I have my own written rules and there it says - Photo-s and pictures may not exceed 640 x 480 and may not exceed 75 Kb without prior permission from Admin. When I used that and adjusted all the oversized ones, the forum also ran faster again.
But my dear, I have a different kind of forum and that alone makes a lot of difference. Right? No linking to commercial sites is allowed without verification either.

I am too old to learn how a dedicated server works and also don't want the hassle anymore, because I already translate 10 hours a day and collect 3 hours of news anyway.

So for me, YaBB works great and was a heavy shock after reading Dandello's comments, about 2.7 and beyond. I once wanted to become a programmer, but my father did not want to pay for the course because he thought there was no dry bread to be earned. Well that was so for many around 1960. If I could handle Perl and ect, etc I would certainly help Dandello. She deserves that for all she has done and is doing. But I am too old now to learn.

I really hope some developers are reading along and decide to become active again so that a great product can continue to run. I have requested my PC guru to do an install on his server of SMF and see what is needed. BUT, this only in case YaBB is really laid to rest, yet then what I have now will be modified as an archive and continue to run.

So in silence I hope for good news.