Pieszyce wrote on Mar 14^th, 2023 at 12:07pm:

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As I believe you may already know, shortly after YaBB 1.0 was released, there was a 2nd program written in 2001 called YaBB SE 1, and that "YaBB SE split off from the YaBB SE team" back in 2003. "On September 30, 2003, the first "YaBB SE/SMF" product, SMF 1.0 Beta 1a, was released."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_Machines_Forum

YaBBers like us, however, stayed with YaBB because we preferred it. Back then, some of us who were active on the now defunct YaBB Support Forum realized that it likely wouldn't be sustainable because there was no democratic structure to maintain its integrity.

That's to say, that forum was operated as a private operation rather than a quasi-public one, which is why it wasn't uncommon for members to be temporarily, or permanently suspended for obviously personal reasons. That's about the time that many members switched over to SMF when there was still an effectly working converter.

Because I spoke out about the unacceptable, and inexplicable censoring that was going on, I was temporarily suspended a couple of times from the YaBB Support Forum. However, like others who were suspended, we still had access thanks to supporters who shared a handful of generic usernames.

In any case, that was the beginning of the end for YaBB as we knew it. Had it not been for Dandello's creation of this YaBB Development & Mods Forum, which I've always considered to be a true extension of the original YaBB Support Forum given her public record of supporting YaBB, and all of the help that she's offered over the years, I suppose that YaBB could otherwise be considered dead.

Nonetheless, YaBB forums still exist. I still prefer using YaBB. I'll continue to use it until it stops working.

As I've mentioned before, though, and in the order of my personal preference, I have a phpBB forum as well as a SMF forum that are operational if either one is needed. Frankly, however, I've really only used the YaBB forum as an extra way to organize content versus having it serve as social media.

Things change, and that's okay.

It looks like YaBB must have died. It is not possible for me to switch to an SMF forum. I also advise against trying to convert the data. It is possible, but not without errors and very complicated. I spent hours on it and then gave it up. The problem is also the SQL database. While it does SMF very quickly, it is also limited in size. If you ever have to set up a new forum and the database exceeds the permitted size, it can only be restored with Docker. If you can't do that, you've already lost. Well, no one knows what's next. I messaged JonB but no response. I would take over the entire YaBB forum. I have more than enough space on the server.

At the moment I'm in the process of making YaBB 2.6.12 bug-free. I've already posted some here on the board. What I can't manage, I hope that Dandello will help me.

Now I'm wondering, do we even need YaBB 2.7? Do we even need a SQL database? Flat file is significantly more secure.

From me comes a clear "NO".

I will soon adapt the help files (YaBB 2.6.12) for the German language. For YaBB 2.7 I finished them long ago, just haven't uploaded them anymore. Unfortunately a lot of work for nothing.

PS: If you run your own server, you should switch your name servers to Cloudflare. This way you can reach an enormous speed and you don't need a database.

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pyragony54 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2022 at 2:54pm:



Correct

September 2017 Was the Most Active Month on Record for Atlantic Hurricanes

https://weather.com/storms/hurricane/news/september-2017-most-active-month-on-re...

JonB's last post was on Mar 5th, 2015 at 10:06am. I can not see his last login date. In 2022, I do not believe the USA has had a hurricane yet. There was Hurricane Agatha, Agatha made landfall near Puerto Angel, Mexico this past May. So if JonB was evacuating for a hurricane this year, he is in Mexico.

Yesterday I completed the installation of YaBB 2.7 and last night uploaded all the data from my forum (almost 500,000 posts and almost 50,000 topics) to the conversion. Everything went smoothly, no errors. I noticed that there is still a lot to be done with the translation, apparently something was added. No problem.
However, what does not work is sending mails with the YaBB engine and Perl modules. Otherwise I can't find any errors at the moment.

@ Dandello

if you need access to test mail delivery, I will give you the data for the mailbox.

You know your access data for the forum.


In my opinion, YaBB 2.7 turned out very well.

As always, the test forum is located below

https://yabbtest.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl



Now I will slowly incorporate the mods, but this should be done before the conversion. Other languages should be incorporated before the setup. Otherwise you have to incorporate them manually.

@ Red Barchetta

I know all this, it's nothing new to me. I also put a lot of time into YaBB. I also understand that Dandello doesn't have the time or inclination anymore. Only when I start something do I finish it. Dandelo writes she will finish YaBB 2.7, okay. Then I will also finish the translations. No problem. Of course, the mods must then also be adjusted. I sat there for weeks doing the translation for YaBB 2.7 and in Germany they have two translations, formal and informal. Both are important. I also offered to host the YaBB sites on my server and that was free of charge. No answer is also an answer. I look after a few YaBB forums here in Germany and I do it for free because I just enjoy it. I don't care about the money.

But I'll start with an example of how not to do it. XTC develops the mod "Who is where" After YaBB has been further developed, this mod also has to be adapted. This was also done by JetLi and what did he do, he sold the mod to anyone who wanted it for 20 euros. I called XTC and told him about it. The end of the story: XTC rewrote the mod and JetLi was at a loss. At the same time, completely different machinations came to light. But that is not important now. Maybe XTC will write something about it at some point.

The fact is, Dandello announced here in this post that she will finish 2.7, I hope the mods too. For me, that's reason enough to keep going. I have now set up YaBB 2.7 on my test domain and will now try to transfer my large forum. I will write about mistakes.

PS: Doesn't JohnB also live in Miami? Or am I wrong there?

Dandello wrote on Jun 18^th, 2022 at 3:36pm:


If YaBB 2.7 is the last version, so be it. But what do you mean by PERL update? Doing this on a dedicated server is no problem for me. With virtual servers, however, there will be difficulties from the providers. You know I'd love to help you code, but I can't and I don't know anyone who can. Okay, promise me that 2.7 will be ready soon and bug free and I'll keep going. I have no other choice, switching to SMF is out of the question for me. If you need help with sending email, you can always use my server. I've just installed the latest build on yabbtest.de and am currently transferring my big forum. I'll probably know by tonight German time. Later more.

I feel like they want YaBB to die. Why else are the YaBB pages no longer working?
Why doesn't anyone tell us the truth.

This is exactly what JetLi wanted. Now he did it.