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Dec 28th, 2017 at 3:04am
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after disabling the proxy protection in the guardian-ban an administrator's aipi from the whitelist, deletion in .htaccess does not help
  
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Reply #1 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 4:49am
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Have you checked to make sure the admin's IP address is not in the ban list?
  

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Reply #2 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 6:25am
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Уведомление о Блокировке. You have been banned from using this forum permanently by Administrator.

when you press the exit-I is banned with the above notification
  
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Reply #3 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 6:27am
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yes he checked it is included permanently in htaccess

in guardian appears too, neither in the proxy nor above, where the server-side lock
  
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Reply #4 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 6:29am
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Reply #5 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 1:43pm
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Both the listing in the banlist AND in .htaccess must be removed.
  

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Reply #6 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 2:21pm
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yes in the file everything is erased-it does not help, when you press the admin on the output immediately appears a message about the bunt and 3 times the admin's ip appears in the settings of the ban Guardian-I'm tired from there erasing-again 3 times the ipy will wither there
  
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Reply #7 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 4:19pm
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Okay - what appears to be happening is that although logged in admins (based on cookies on their computer) should not be able to be banned, your admin keeps getting logged out (or maybe they're not updating their session after their IP has changed) and keeps triggering errors that then trigger an IP block in .htacess.

Not sure how they're getting IP banned unless they don't know their own IP address and are banning themselves OR someone logged in as admin on a different IP address is banning what looks like a bad Guest's IP address due to all the errors generated by an admin who doesn't know they're logged out.
  

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Reply #8 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 4:21pm
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Reply #9 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 4:22pm
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Reply #10 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 4:26pm
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how do I fix it? -no they come in. Personally, I'm the main admin-root, just clicked to sign out. You were at the forum and got a ban
  
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Reply #12 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 5:37pm
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hurray, earned-deleted from the list of blocking participant-and earned, it turned out he was banned with my ip (since I started it) -something deleted and in the lock list forever for nickname he was
  
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Reply #13 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 5:40pm
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although I'm not sure that the hole is patched up, the fact is that I was replaced by an IP provider, we will see when the buggy is returned
  
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Reply #14 - Dec 28th, 2017 at 9:03pm
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What I was seeing as happening from the logs:

There were 2 logins for user admin from different IP addresses. One from an IP starting with 176. and one from an IP starting with 5.

One of those made an edit that threw an error that was reported here.

Almost immediately after, someone who was not logged in as admin at IP 176 tried to enter the Admin Center. At some point, the 'Guest' at 176 was banned - prossibly by the person logged in as admin at IP 5. Once IP address 176 was banned, 'Guest' at 176 got IP blocked because of repeated rapid errors.

Now, how the supposed admin logged in from IP 176 got logged out and failed to notice is something I can only guess at. I am guessing that their IP address got shifted to something else and then back again. OR they were working from 2 different computers on the same IP address and were logged on one machine and not the other and may have even banned themselves.

And yes, the same IP address can be added multiple times to the Guardian blocked list from the ErrorLog. (Although that's not likely to happen if the problem IP address is added automatically since once the IP address is listed, the problem user can't make any more errors to be automatically blocked.)
  

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Reply #15 - Dec 29th, 2017 at 12:16pm
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Yes, I had to go from different to go-by clicking on the exit button, I was immediately locked 176, the problem was solved when I pulled out the nickname I created from the ban-it was banned permanently by login and then deleted, and in the lock list, it's a hole to eliminate-why banned forever for a username-machine was banned by the IP address? -it requires correction
  
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Reply #16 - Dec 29th, 2017 at 3:30pm
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IP bans and IP blocks are part of two completely different and unrelated systems. While you're right that a Permanent IP ban on top of an IP block in the htaccess seems redundant, many admins don't use or don't have access to htaccess for IP blocking.

Again: this is what I've pieced together: user admin at IP beginning with 176 IP-banned someone with the same IP address. Therefore the admin got IP banned. This is a known hazard.

Because the admin got IP banned and started throwing errors to the errorlog in a way that mimicked a bad bot trying to break into YaBB, that IP got autoblocked in htaccess.

And changing the exit routine for the IP banning from Profiles as you suggest will cause major issues for the Forum Moderator who does not have access to the Admin Center and does not solve the actual issue: you IP banned yourself.

The admins I've known that have accidentally banned themselves (and it does happen) have either logged in from a different IP and unbanned themselves it or contacted the YaBBForum administrators and asked one of us to log in and unban them. Not one of those admins triggered the autoblock by flooding the errorlog with errors while IP banned.

I may, when I have time, put together some code to check IP bans against the admin's IP list. But then, you're probably the first in YaBB's long history to get autoblocked by the errorlog protections after IP banning yourself.

So, no, not going to try to fix a 'bug' that that doesn't exist but does reveal you do a good emulation of a bot.
  

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Reply #17 - Dec 29th, 2017 at 9:20pm
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you are not there to incur-if you want to just make a common white list in the admin panel and not only when the proxy protection works, you do not understand either me or the problem with the 5 ip I came in-it's vpn in order to delete the home computer's aipi-and the problem was in the fact that I started a nickname with an admin's IP address to a person through the admin panel, then this nickname banned by login (why bans turned out to be on the ip I do not understand) -this is the most zaban and was the reason that when I was blocked by the system, the nickname I deleted was deleted in the logs it's been left out, and then on the way out I got the ka dy again ban

the problem is that created through the admin panel nickname was banned by login (neither mail nor ip), then it was removed through the admin panel, why the ban was on the ip?
  
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Reply #18 - Dec 30th, 2017 at 12:47am
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The only way an IP can be banned is by a person actually banning that IP either from a member profile OR in Banning Utilities in the Admin Center.

There are 3 separate ban sections - one for user names, one for e-mail addresses, and one IP addresses. Banning an user name does not ban the IP address that user used or their e-mail address. Banning an e-mail address does not ban the user name or the IP address. Banning an IP address does not ban any user names or e-mail addresses.

Banning a user name, e-mail address, or IP address does not make changes to Guardian or htaccess files.

Deleting a member does not affect what bans are in place, nor does it make changes to Guardian or htaccess files.

Therefore: while you claim a user name was being banned, that cannot have banned their IP address UNLESS SOMEBODY CHANGED THE CODE IN THE BANNING SECTON. And if that happened, that's not YaBB's fault nor is it a bug within YaBB.

All other problems you reported, including the changes in Guardian and the htaccess file, came from banning that IP address.
  

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Reply #19 - Dec 30th, 2017 at 5:08am
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here at last you understand that the prohibition of the login has been banned and the IP address has been verified on my example-just the ip-ip hit the ban when you press the exit-I can understand you. I would like it so that there was no problem but it is-priage on the output of the home computer of my computer time and got into the ban because it was banned by the login forever the user whom I created with my ip from the admin panel is a problem of assembly and code just like you would not deny it
  
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Reply #20 - Dec 30th, 2017 at 2:09pm
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You IP banned your own IP address. But now it's MY fault because YaBB can't anticipate people doing dumb things?

Over the many years YaBB has been around, other admins have IP banned themselves but, to my knowledge, you're the first one to not only IP ban yourself but trigger the IP blocker in the errorlog. And this is not once but repeatedly.

DON'T BAN YOUR OWN IP ADDRESS


  

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